Except illegally migrate to the US without applying or engaging in human traffic and smuggling.
You may not like it, but the USA is still a nation of laws. It's also a modern nation. Third world shitholes have lots of problems caused by illegal immigration because they don't do enough to enforce the law and restore order for their citizens.
I'm rather glad that US culture hasn't yet turned into another Afghanistan or Pakistan.
No, including illegal immigration. There are people who have immigrated fully legally within the boundaries of the laws of our nation and still gotten targeted, detained, arrested, and even deported.
There are American citizens getting stopped and harassed for their papers.
It's always hilarious hearing the "America can't become one of those shithole countries!" while advocating for policies and attitudes that are pervasive in said shithole countries.
Can't edit my prior comment, but anyway here are some thoughts from a Founding Father, 2nd President of the United States, and leader of the American Revolution, John Adams:
> We are to look upon it as more beneficial, that many guilty persons should escape unpunished, than one innocent person should suffer. The reason is, because it’s of more importance to community, that innocence should be protected, than it is, that guilt should be punished; for guilt and crimes are so frequent in the world, that all of them cannot be punished; and many times they happen in such a manner, that it is not of much consequence to the public, whether they are punished or not. But when innocence itself, is brought to the bar and condemned, especially to die, the subject will exclaim, it is immaterial to me, whether I behave well or ill; for virtue itself, is no security. And if such a sentiment as this, should take place in the mind of the subject, there would be an end to all security what so ever
I'm simply calling for my government to obey the Constitution.
If they can't execute these operations without violating people's rights, then uhh... they can't execute these operations. That's not me "banning" anything, that's just called "following the law." Violating people's Constitutional rights (even immigrants', even illegal immigrants'!) is already banned.
It's not a crime to be an unauthorized resident of the United States; it's a civil offense. Knowingly hiring an ineligible worker is a crime, however. I'm curious why we aren't going after the employers attracting and hiring undocumented residents.
Besides, people were being deported in significant numbers across multiple presidents in both parties without resorting to the strategy and tactics of the current administration.
I know they were. But when Obama and Clinton were doing it, one of the big differences was that there were not all these Karens blowing whistles and interfering with those operations. The difference is that now there are far more deranged people who want to take the law into their own hands, and often these people are violently attacking law enforcement.
I don't like having these conversations, and I don't consider myself a defender of the current ICE. It's far from a perfect organisation and it has a lot of problems.
But it seems clear to me that the concept of law and an ordered society has taken a big hit. Trump Derangement Syndrome is not an excuse to allow that to evaporate in Minneapolis and all the other cities with extremely violent protests and attacks on law enforcement.
It seems you're under the belief that the Karens blowing whistles is creating the different enforcement mechanism.
Can you explain how this is not disproven by:
1) POTUS's own statements for years prior to taking power that he would enact a totally different kind of immigration enforcement regime
2) The massive budget increase and personnel surge for ICE, planned at least several months before Trump even took power
3) DHS policy memos shared days after Trump taking power that claimed nationwide expansion of expedited removal powers
4) Declaration of expansive state powers under AEA, also planned months before taking power and therefore months before any public resistance to immigration enforcement
These are all extremely, extremely aberrational actions and policy decisions, all of which contribute to the current facts on the ground in Minneapolis and elsewhere, and none of which were in response to Karens blowing whistles.
What evidence do you have that Karens are causing the enforcement shift, versus the enforcement shift causing the Karens, given that the enforcement shifts were planned for months before the Karens even had any whistles to blow?
> You may not like it, but the USA is still a nation of laws.
I would love it if the US was a country of laws, but the rule of law has been quite thoroughly killed by the Trump administration. It wasn't very effective even before Trump, as you can see by how the prosecution of Trump's crimes got blocked or derailed every step of the way, but after his election, the Constitution has gone completely out of the window.
> Third world shitholes have lots of problems caused by illegal immigration because they don't do enough to enforce the law and restore order for their citizens.
Their problems don't come from illegal immigration. Not even a bit. Unless you use it as a euphemism for colonialism. The real problem there is corruption and a lack of rule of law. And the US is heading in that same direction fast.
> I'm rather glad that US culture hasn't yet turned into another Afghanistan or Pakistan.
