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> Some such clichés are not inherently terminating, and only become so when used to intentionally dismiss, dissent, or justify fallacies.

How do you parse this sentence? Dismiss, dissent or justify fallacies? The fallacies are being dismissed, dissented (from?) or justified with a thought terminating cliché? So, the fallacy is the thought that's being terminated with the cliché?

The sentence would make grammatical sense if you remove the comma between dismiss and dissent, so that the thought terminating cliche dismisses dissent or justifies fallacies, but that only leads to more fundamental questions: Why do intentions matter? How could a cliche not be inherently thought-terminating? Are there different kinds of clichés, some thought-terminating, others thought-inspiring, or does the intention make the same cliché thought-terminating or thought-inspiring?





The sentence is meant like this:

> Some such clichés are not inherently terminating, and only become so when intentionally used to dismiss something, to dissent, or to justify fallacies.

The fact that “dissent” is an intransitive verb is an important clue. You can’t dissent fallacies. You can only dissent from something.


So a cliché is thought-terminating when it is intentionally used to dissent?

You missed the “only”. The article states having one of the three as a necessary condition, not as a sufficient one.

But the intention to dissent can be what makes a cliché thought-terminating?



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