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As I said, the Wikipedia article is what the words "native Brits" links to.

Here's the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_London

Here's what the article says:

> In 2011, it was reported for the first time that White British people had become a minority within the city

How could you possibly come to the conclusion that it's not about race? Do you think he linked to the wrong article by accident?



>How could you possibly come to the conclusion that it's not about race?

It has nothing to do with race, everything to do with ethnicity. Austrians are racially White, but are not native to London.

There's nothing wrong with promoting or protecting the interests of native or indigenous people over those of immigrants or foreigners. The only "Brits" native to Great Britain are White Brits.


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I think you're not getting his key point, or you are but you're being coy about it. He did say skin colour, in the form of "native Brits". How do you know that? Because of the article he linked, defining the terms he was using. The article is called "Ethnic groups in London", not "Cultural groups in London". He quotes statistics about "native Brits" that match the article's demographics for "White British". There is zero ambiguity here.

If I say "I love a [sweet treat](wikipedia.org/wiki/ice_cream)! It's so refreshingly cold on a nice hot day", there's just no intellectually honest way to claim maybe I meant apple pie. Do you understand? He's not talking about Russian immigrants because they're white. He is talking about Pakistani immigrants because they're brown. He's literally telling you what he means and you're choosing to ignore it. Why?

Perhaps there are, in fact, reasons to not say skin colour even when that's what you mean.


He talked about Pakistani immigrants because they were raping girls and British police did nothing. Maybe "native Brits" are doing the same and getting away with it? Again, you are noticing what you want to see. We can discuss if it's because they are from Pakistan and their culture allows it, or maybe criminals have no nationality and that would be a valid discussion, but bringing skin color here is an obvious distraction.


There's nothing wrong with promoting or protecting the interests of native or indigenous people over those of immigrants or foreigners. The only "Brits" native to Great Britain are White Brits.


Hilariously he's talking about Londinium, a city founded and administrated by non native non British people as part of a foreign beachhead of control by a non British empire. "Native Britains" were excluded as residents or in tiny numbers for four centuries.

London has always been a hive of culture, he's just pining for the nostalgic times he wore onions on his belt and was blind to the depth of culture in London.

There have been Russians in London since before the USSR, not that DHH would have noticed unless they spoke given so few of those Russian were Asiatic or from the steppes.

His point was that he has now finally noticed changes and that he's had his eyes opened by the likes of Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon, Andrew McMaster, Paul Harris, Wayne King, and Tommy Robinson.


As a fun fact, both me and my wife can detect ex-USSR immigrant from afar (even those who have been living here in the US for some time). There is something different in how we look, walk, behave etc. Not wrong, just different, and not everybody of course. Humans are very observing when it comes to cultural code and a big part of it is subconcious, you don't even realize it.




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