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Counterpoint: As I understand it, t was Israeli military incompetence and Netanyahu's strategy of backing Hamas over the PA that caused Oct 7.

Oct 7 will never happen again because it shouldn't have been able to happen in the first place had Israel been less busy fomenting Palestinian extremism in Gaza, and beating/killing Palestinians in the West Bank.

There is no justification for the conditions in Gaza today. All I see are Israelis relishing in the suffering of another group of people. And I see Israeli extremists continuing to conflate Israeli Nationalism with Judaism, so that any criticism of Israel is called anti-Semitic.



> Israeli military incompetence and Netanyahu's strategy of backing Hamas over the PA that caused Oct 7.

I was about to make a joke about this to your sibling comment. Completely agree that oct 7 was one of the biggest security fuck ups in modern history, the militants never shouldve been allowed to escape gaza.

There is no defending Israel's actions over the last year. I just hate seeing people hitting the wrong points. The lopsided death count is irrelevant because it is Hamas' fault. The annexation of gaza is irrelevant because thats what happens when you lose a war you started.

Now starving them out and running them over Tiananmen square style, thats pretty relevant I think. Israels actions in the west bank were in many ways even worse until the starvation stuff started. Straight up state sanctioned terrorism happening over there


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The lopsided death count is Hamas' fault because they are unable to kill any israelis at all. Hamas dies and Israelis dont = lopsided death count. Thats not a bad thing. As you pointed out, there are many actual bad things going on, so focus on that instead of dumb shit that doesnt matter. Makes you look like an idiot when you complain that Hamas cant kill israelis instead of talking about how theyre starving an entire society to death. Hamas does use human shields and that does make it valid for the israelis to kill the human shields, so again the lopsided death count mostly just serves to remind everyone that hamas doesnt give a shit about their population. That Hamas is not a government anyone wants to live under. Doesnt help their cause. Mass starvation does. You need to convince that the palestinian deaths are unjustified, not that they happened. Death happens in war.


> As you pointed out, there are many actual bad things going on, so focus on that instead of dumb shit that doesnt matter.

I am just focusing on Israel committing a genocide on the Palestinian population.




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