> If you are trying to make a scientific argument, you should bring data since that's the cornerstone of science.
He is making an epistemic argument, and epistemology is a part of proper science, though not of scientism, which is what you are bringing.
Binary is not the only form of logic available, but it is the most popular in discussions of the unknown.
> Your original point says very little.
You are literally mixing up subjective and objective.
> Yes, science acknowledges that you can never 100% say "X causes Y".
Careful though: science also does the opposite. Do you know why? Because science is composed of scientists, and scientists are Humans, and Humans are famously unable to distinguish between facts and their opinion of what is a fact. In fact, doing so is almost always inappropriate, and socially punished.
> Science is about...
It may intend to aspire to that, but what it is, is what it is. And what that is, comprehensively, is unknown, because it is unknowable. But we do know portions of what it is: there's the part you said, but there is also deceit, hyperbole, delusion, etc...again, because it is composed of Humans, and this is how Humans are. In my experience, all Humans oppose extreme correctness, I have never met a single one who does not.
I don't think anyone is claiming that science isn't biased because it's conducted by humans. Just like I don't think anyone is really claiming that the OP is incorrect in their statement. The comments I've read are merely pointing out "X causes Y does not mean that Y implies X" is a given in the context of a scientific discussion. It reads as if you and the OP are getting wrapped around the axle by treating science as an outcome rather than a process and, in doing so, fighting a claim that was never made, and one where the counterclaim is generally well understood in the scientific community. So well understood that it doesn't really need to be said.
I've not made any claims that science is the only path to truth. But we are talking in the context of scientific domains of physics and cosmology, so using science as a benchmark is probably apt. If you want to discuss philosophy, that's all well and good but probably more appropriate for a different thread.
And I'll help you: I acknowledge there is plenty of room for error on my behalf. I also acknowledge there is probably plenty of value in things that can't be measured by science, but I'm not sure they belong in the topic of physics or cosmology. However, I don't think the wordsmithing is the way to illuminate error in the context of this discussion. It seems to fall into the realm of modern philosophy that is more about arguing words in the vein of trying to be smart, instead of good.
He is making an epistemic argument, and epistemology is a part of proper science, though not of scientism, which is what you are bringing.
Binary is not the only form of logic available, but it is the most popular in discussions of the unknown.
> Your original point says very little.
You are literally mixing up subjective and objective.
> Yes, science acknowledges that you can never 100% say "X causes Y".
Careful though: science also does the opposite. Do you know why? Because science is composed of scientists, and scientists are Humans, and Humans are famously unable to distinguish between facts and their opinion of what is a fact. In fact, doing so is almost always inappropriate, and socially punished.
> Science is about...
It may intend to aspire to that, but what it is, is what it is. And what that is, comprehensively, is unknown, because it is unknowable. But we do know portions of what it is: there's the part you said, but there is also deceit, hyperbole, delusion, etc...again, because it is composed of Humans, and this is how Humans are. In my experience, all Humans oppose extreme correctness, I have never met a single one who does not.