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Still think this was CIA operation to get OpenAI in hands of US government and big tech.

Former Secretary, SalesForce CEO who was board chair of Twitter when infiltrated with FBI [1] and the fall-guy for the coup is the new board? Not one person from the actual company - not even Greg who did nothing wrong??? [1] - https://twitter.com/NameRedacted247/status/16340211499976867...

The two think-tank women who made all this happen conveniently leave so we never talk about them again.

Whatever, as long as I can use their API.



US companies don't need to be "in the hands of the government", we have rule of law.

And Helen Toner was already as much of a fed as you could want; she had exactly the resume a CIA agent would have. (Probably wasn't though.)


Rule of law that can be altered at any moment Patriot Act style is hardly reassuring.


That's how you know it's working.


By rule of law do you mean rule of lobbyists? Laws don't apply to people with wealth and connections.


Without looking it up, what happened to the second biggest donor to the Democrats this year?

Is Donald Trump allowed to run a charity in New York?


So two blatant criminals got caught, big whoop. SBF broke rule number 1 - don't fuck with rich people's money.


You're obviously just coping here. FTX was the "rich connected people", there weren't other even richer connecteder people.

(It's also totally possible FTX still has everyone's money. They own a lot of Anthropic shares that are really valuable. But he's still been convicted because of all the fraud they did.)


I wish they could make GPT4 a little cheaper after all this.


I've heard $20 just buys like 9 minutes of actual processor time for GPT 4. Apocryphal maybe, but whatever the real number is, it's still going to be very high, once the VC money runs out I bet the rates will shoot.


I am talking about API. There is no fixed cost for it. 6000 tokens cost around $0.25. If I use if all day long I pay more than $10 per day.


Ah, sorry, I was confused, thanks for the clarification.


considering what I get out of it, I would pay a lot more for gpt4 that $20/month, so it depends on how much $20 is for you.


$20. Or use the API if your usage is low.


I am glad someone said that. Among the endless theories this obvious aspect was interestingly missing. Maybe it's because of the culture in SV/HN where people and companies feel secure and isolated from the politics (maybe that is the reason SV is unique in the world). But in my world something like AGI+Saudi Arabia is a matter of international politics and multiple governments would involve. AGI will be an important strategic resource in this century, both in economical and political sense. This automatically makes it Cold War 2 kind of material. All these teen drama by some incompetent millennials in the board of a non-profit organization (Communist-like in a Capitalist country?) does not align with the gravity of the material. I believe this was some adult supervision attempt from your government. Or not, but that perspective needs more attention.


I could buy this theory, but it's worth noting that if it's true, their coup appears to have failed. So that's score one for the naive tech bros, score zero for the conniving natsec sociopaths.


Maybe not. Microsoft and Summers are now much more in control. That’s a win for the USA and DOD.


Yeah fair enough. Any idea how Larry Summers even ended up on this board? He seems like an arbitrary choice with no domain expertise, although granted the board shouldn't be filled with AI experts.




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