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It's really hard for me to see this as anything more than, Oh, Franzen's a hater.

Come to think of it, I've never read anything about DFW that comes remotely close to what he did on the page? Like it seems like every writer who has more than a few paragraphs on DFW is someone obviously inferior?

Relatedly, a wild thing, Chuck Palahniuk has written very little about him, but this included the fact that HE AND DFW SHARE A BIRTHDAY.

That kinda blew my mind.



Franzen wasn't the first and hasn't been the most consistent among those raising this concern. DT Max, who was Wallace's friend, and not even a rival-friend like Franzen, has said he thinks the chess encounter from this story is fabricated.

It's also been very convincingly established that the "companion" of the state fair essay didn't exist or wasn't there, which fundamentally changes the piece in a very serious way. His relationship to the publication in the famous "consider the lobster" essay was also not at all what he claimed within the essay.

He was a great writer in many ways and these don't change that or reflect on his skill. I think his even publishing as "nonfiction" was more a characteristic of the literary-journalistic culture of his time, rather than an informed choice on his behalf. Tall tales and partially fictionalized accounts of real events are themselves a deep American literary tradition and there's no shame in that heritage.

But it's well established now that he wasn't the most strictly scrupulous writer or person in general. He stalked and harassed Mary Karr for years, and he has absolutely been caught in small lies in his published works. Whether you still trust him on the big stuff is up to you I guess, doesn't speak to his literary legacy much either way imo.


> Like it seems like every writer who has more than a few paragraphs on DFW is someone obviously inferior?

That seems like a crank opinion, at least wrt Franzen's writing and your italics around the word "obviously."


I mean, it's definitely my opinion, that's why I did the "it seems." To me it does feel obvious, but I do wonder if others agree?

I mean, I've read Infinite Jest (I did mostly skip the footnotes) but I can't get through more than a few pages of every Franzen novel I've tried. Could just be me.


I thought the footnotes in Infinite Jest were gold.


They absolutely are. GP missed out.


Franzen was one of DFW's closest friends.


Sure, but if you know writers, this in no way excludes the possibility I mentioned :)




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