Do you agree that torture is wrong regardless of its effectiveness? Should people not object to things that they see as wrong?

yes, but the persons point wasn't that its good/bad but wether its the best disinfectant (in my interpretation that means effectiveness)

so, censorship may be morally bad or wrong and also very effective, and its the fact that it is effective and working is why there is a very loud objection to it

thats all im pointing out

sorry if maybe we are talking past each other!

> yes, but the persons point wasn't that its good/bad but wether its the best disinfectant (in my interpretation that means effectiveness)

And my point is, people can make a big deal about something because they think it's wrong, regardless of whether it ultimately works.

thats definitely true for many people for sure