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The ENTIRE point of parental leave benefit is to ensure that your employment status doesn’t change while you are using it. The business doesn’t have to stop in it’s tracks, but the legal expectation is generally that you will come back to the same job you left.

This sends a horrifying message to employees.



> The ENTIRE point of parental leave benefit is to ensure that your employment status doesn’t change while you are using it.

That's strange, I always thought that the point of it was to allow parents to spend much needed time with their newborn child.


Anyone can get that time with their child by quitting their job.

The ‘benefit’ part is that you get your job back after a few months.


No, the "benefit" part is that you get full salary and benefits while you're not working.


So if the company has widespread layoffs (not saying that's what happened in this case), then anyone on paternal/maternal leave is automatically immune?

> This sends a horrifying message to employees.

Yeah, as someone without kids, your proposal certainly sends a horrifying message to me.


It’s not a proposal. It’s how the law works. If there are layoffs, then yes you can lose your job on parental leave, technically as long as the elimination of your position is unrelated to taking leave. I’m not saying that there is no way to do it. I’m saying that it’s a dumb thing to do.

The message should be just as horrifying whether or not you have kids. The message is: “We made a commitment about your terms of employment. We are willing to break that promise openly and publicly with one of our leaders. Do you think we won’t do it to you?”

Anyone at twitter right now should see this as a red flag at a time when everything is in flux.

Management is in chaos in the middle of a politically contentious buyout, and doing things like firing people on parental leave that will necessarily read badly in the press.

If I were at twitter right now I would be getting everything in writing, and lining up a new job that starts the day my RSUs go liquid.


You have very odd ideas about what this "commitment about your terms of employment" is.

Yes, its true, legally you can not, and should not, be penalized for taking parental leave (a point I made in my original post). At the same time, you should not get some guarantee that because you are on leave you can't be treated the same as if you were working.

If this guy would have been fired had he been working, a parental leave doesn't act like some sort of "get out of jail free" card.




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