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Yes, and I saw your examples. But do they prove that mail-in votes are:

1. less likely to be counted 2. more likely to be compromised & 3. more likely to be contested than those cast in a voting booth?

Or are they just some examples of mail-in voter fraud? (Some aren’t even that, still just discrepancies being investigated)



The NBC news article I quoted explains exactly what you are asking:

> Close Results In Paterson Vote Plagued By Fraud Claims; Over 3K Ballots Seemingly Set Aside

> A county spokesman said 16,747 vote-by-mail ballots were received, but the county's official results page shows 13,557 votes were counted — with uncounted ballots representing 19 percent of all votes cast

> The spokesman later told the Paterson Press that the additional 2,390 disqualifications were due to the election board comparing signatures on the ballots to those previously on file for voters, and the new ones not matching up. The spokesman also would not explain the breakdown of what ward those ballots were from, or which candidates were voted for in those disqualified ballots. According to the Paterson Press, four wards had more votes go uncounted than the winner's margin of victory — meaning the uncounted ballots possibly could have tipped the election in favor of one of the candidates.

I think it’s not worth debating political topics on HN because all I get is comments flagged (aka disappears), downvoted and people being intellectually dishonest. Seems like no one clicks on any of the sources before downvoting and attacking.


A persons signature often changes over time - it’s a ridiculous reason to void a vote.

All that should matter is the form being delivered to the correct address of a registered voter, and that voter only voting once - with the obvious identity / address checks being undertaken on registration.


You are probably being downvoted because you are moving the goalpost:

I am not asking you if mail in voter fraud has ever happened, I am asking you if there is proof that there is more mail in voter fraud than in person voter fraud.

I don’t think you will be able to give me anything that indicates this, much less proves it, Twitters statement stands correct




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