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This seems like an unnecessarily unkind response. The post you're replying to is sharing their opinion and asking what people who are in the industry think about it.


I think it's both arrogant and ignorant to make assumptions like that.


FaceID was just one example they gave (which is probably faster and more energy efficient now).

Image recognition, OCR, AR and more are applications of the NPU that didn’t exist at all on older iPhones because they have would be too intensive for the chips and batteries.


That's false. Face ID is in fact a complex form of image recognition, so image recognition was definitely possible on older NPUs. OCR is the simplest form of image recognition (OCR was literally the first application of LeCun's CNN), so this was definitely possible as well. "AR" is an extremely vague term. If you refer to Snapchat style video overlays, those have been possible for a long time as well.


Your response feels unnecessarily unkind


He thinks this is Reddit, where debate by "gotcha" is the norm.


When you comment in bad faith you get unkind responses


And when people assume bad faith, they needlessly produce unkind responses, which is what happened here.

EDIT: Nope, I checked his comments, every single one is "you clearly know nothing about <blank>" and the next one is "you clearly know nothing about <something else>". Total Hacker News Redditization happening before our eyes.


This feels somewhat analogous to games like Quake being open-sourced though still needing the user to provide the original game data files.


But games like Quake are not "open source". They have been open-sourced, specifically the executable parts were, without the assets. This is usually spelled out clearly as the process happen.

In terms of functional role, if we're to compare the models to open-sourced games, then all that's been open-sourced is the trivial[0] bit of code that does the inference.

Maybe a more adequate comparison would be a SoC running a Linux kernel with a big NVidia or Qualcomm binary blob in the middle of it? Sure, the Linux kernel is open source, but we wouldn't call the SoC "open source", because all that makes it what it is (software-side) is hidden in a proprietary binary.

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[0] - In the sense that there's not much of it, and it's possible to reproduce from papers.


I think this is about the scale of it. This is going to be running on every iPhone and Mac, rather than a 3rd party app or website you buy or go to.

It’s now built into the operating system.

New update comes with an app dedicated to generating AI images and email and notes have features that generate and summarise text.


Yes, this is going to accelerate the transition to a world where:

• X drafts a set of bullet points for an email

• X uses AI to make it into a full-blown email, with various pleasantries and appropriate padding

• Y has an email client that uses AI to distill the message to its essence

• Y reads a set of bullet points not unlike the ones that X originally drafted


Wild that telnet isn’t installed by default on modern Macs. Times have changed.


Telnet has not been installed on any OS (including Linux) for years now. And this is the Right Thing(TM) to do.


> Telnet has not been installed on any OS (including Linux) for years now.

FreeBSD has it out the box.

> And this is the Right Thing(TM) to do.

Why? Telnet is just a application, client. A telnet-like server, I could understand. The telnet client does lots of things and handy ones too. It's a raw protocol allowing you to send whatever data you desire.

Checking if the web server is responding correctly, sometimes you need to troubleshoot HTML headers and telnet is perfect for that as well as checking ports too to name a few.


Linux doesn't even install a command line shell by default, so I think that goes without saying :)


Of course you are right :D

So Linux is actually more secure than OpenBSD ;)


Just checked my Ubuntu WSL, and telnet is installed. I don't think I would've installed that myself.

My memory of modern Linux distros is that it is still installed, but that the telnet daemon is disabled by default.


In my experience telnet (also nc) is installed by default on most GNU/Linux distributions. But not on Windows or Mac.


Since macOS High sierra apparently, 2017 release :(


This is an unkind nitpick of something someone has made.

It’s an app that runs on a Mac. What framework it’s running on doesn’t make it less of an app.


I do think people will have certain expectations when they hear "Mac app", though. Though at the same time, Electron is a bad word on HN. The ideal situation for marketing would be additional support for Windows/Linux so that it can be called a cross-platform app.



Electron is the future of Mac apps. You just haven't fully coped with it yet.


Guidelines don't dictate what an app is, they're just fucking GUIDELINES


Agreed, thanks.


Your reply feels unkind. They just said they lived in Sweden for a time. I don’t think it implies luxury or that they’re a wealthy jet-setting cosmopolitan. It could be for one of many reasons.

I also don’t know what’s wrong with hearing the opinion of a jet-setting cosmopolitan anyhow.


Maybe some sort of cube mapping on the toasters to give them a reflective metallic look will make them blend with the environment more, situating them in the space and harkening to the original

(The APIs don’t let you use the actual environment for reflections, right?)


Thank you for the recommendation! I applied a "Physically Based" material to the toasters, setting the "metallic" attribute to its maximum value. The app preview/screenshots might not fully showcase the potential metallic appearance, which depends on the lighting conditions and the selection of the right emissive color. I'll experiment some more to enhance its reflectiveness under a broader range of conditions.

| (The APIs don’t let you use the actual environment for reflections, right?) That's a good point..I don't know the answer to your question but maybe I just need to add a light source in the virtual world.


We shouldn’t let perfect be the enemy of good


We shouldn't make blanket statements


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