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Surely you can steel man this yourself. Iran wants nukes. Iran has stated it would like to destroy the US and Israel. Israel is an outpost of Western democracy and our ally. Iran has missiles that can reach Europe. Iran is an ally of Russia and China. Iran wants to control the passageway for a big chunk of the world's oil. Cooperation between Israel and its neighbors would be a great asset to the world economy.

This is not comprehensive and maybe you can quibble with some of it, but it is not mysterious why we might care.


>Iran wants nukes.

Entirely rational, given their desire for sovereignty and avoiding getting bombed to oblivion.

> Iran has stated it would like to destroy the US and Israel.

The linguistic nuance of the slogan "Death to America" has been articulated and clarified over a decade ago.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/irans-ayatollah-ali-khame...

https://pulitzercenter.org/stories/what-does-death-america-r...

>Israel is an outpost of Western democracy and our ally.

The former is a meaningless characteristic when said democracy commits a genocide and runs an apartheid state (hard to deny with the recent capital punishment law exclusively for Palestinian prisoners). Hardly model behavior for anyone else in the region to emulate. The latter is meaningless since this ally only ever drags us into problems, almost all of which are of its own making.

> Cooperation between Israel and its neighbors would be a great asset to the world economy.

It's easier to cooperate with your neighbors when you stop squatting on their territory, or stop massacring them.

>but it is not mysterious why we might care.

I think "people who care" should volunteer to serve in the IDF, and leave the rest of America out of it. Kinda like the various low-friction pipelines for people to go fight/die for Ukraine without committing US Service Members to such a wasteful endeavor.


Long shot, but I'll ask. For a while Thunderbird spam filter will work fine. Then, spontaneously, it stops working and starts showing me many which are obvious, identical junk. And after flagging them as junk, it doesn't seem to learn anything.

For when this happens, it would be nice to have an explicit (and easy) way to blacklist items. Creating new filters for each of them is too involved.


I hope you have spam filtering happening somewhere upstream of your local computer. Spammers are constantly adjusting to find ways around filters, and there is no way a third class open source legacy email client I going to be able to give their filter the continuous attention it needs to stay effective.

Yes. But this is not clever stuff. I'd expect the most simple-minded Bayesian filter to identify it.

And it's always been a business.

Israel never wanted to keep getting rocketed by Iran and its proxies. That didn't stop them.

According to multiple recent polls a majority of Israelis preferred to continue the fight against Iran at risk of continued rocket attacks from Iran.

Huh? Iran has been shooting rockets at Israel for years. Oh, wait, Israel provoked Iran by being a successful non-Arab country.

f/8 and be there?


Not an argument.

Between

- ADL

- StandWithUs

- AIPAC

- Zionist Organization of America

- Foundation to Combat Anti-Semitism

- Act.IL / RiseAPP

- Israel Hub

and more, there's enough resources to get Their People into moderator positions at /r/conservative.


Those Zionists are everywhere.

There is only one reason for us to give a damn about Israel other than religious fervor, and it's their technology and intelligence apparatus. They only care about us because we give them a lot of money and weapons, and apparently will follow them into their Leeroy Jenkins war and do the heavy lifting.

They're committing a genocide and now are ethnically cleansing Lebanon of Muslims under the cover of the Iran War. Their government is not worthy of support.


Yes, I've noticed.

They didn't make it into the Jewish Council of Australia: https://www.jewishcouncil.com.au/who-we-are

... but there's certainly no shortage of Zionist pressure and lobby groups wanting leverage and influence.


It is not obvious at all unless you don't understand Iran's objectives and its attacks on Israel (a country over 1,000 miles away) for the past several decades.

But, excluding child mortality, life expectancy then in Germany was ~25%+ less than Iran today. (Unless you're an IRGC commander.)

Could be a very little person.

Imagine if AI cures cancer.

Let's also imagine an alternative reality where some reasonable percentage of the $2.5T in current year AI spending was instead invested in the "general intelligence" researchers we already have for the same purpose. I think it's a pretty reasonable expectation that 1) they'd probably make more progress and 2) that money would help a lot more people in the process (through jobs and economic activity).

You can imagine all you want, but my understanding is there is no credible evidence that scaling LLMs will result in true AGI.

Obviously there's no "evidence". Why would you even think we need AGI? But I'm happy to hear your reasoning if you were one of the few/only? people who imagined that software that could predict the next word could do what it now is doing.

An already-ageing population living even longer while nobody wants kids anymore?

Am I correctly reading your argument that you are pro cancer for the purposes of demographic balance?

I think his broader point is that life preservation doesn't seem like such a big win if overall quality of life is dropping to the point where people decide to not subject their potential children with the burden of living.

I would say that’s a pretty huge if.

Where has quality of life dropped so much that people want to die slowly at a young age of a horrible and painful disease instead of getting old?


You don't have to imagine, it will hallucinate you a slop with full confidence every time.

I've already seen at least one person who was pretty sure that the preprint paper they co-authored with AI (read: AI wrote for them) was going to cure cancer and make them billions of dollars.

There was only one problem. The paper jumped straight from "this paper will show how our new treatment could cures cancer forever" to "as you can see, these results clearly show that our treatment cures cancer" - with neither any actual results nor any specifics on the treatment. And I don't just mean that the paper didn't go into details; writing the paper was the full extent of their "research".


So QED then, I guess.

Proof by assertion.

AI was used fundamentally for COVID vaccine development. AI is used for research in all modern drugs. It’s a certainty if cancer gets cured AI will have played a fundamental role since it’s already fundamental to precursors.

Curing cancer isn't profitable. But even if someone tries to mix AI and biotech, the result will be a dangerous medical slop.

Imagine if people with inexpensive tools cure cancer. You know, like they used to so far?

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