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There is an interesting question - how can we prove paternity or other DNA based questions with identical twins (full sequencing looking for mutations?) and if we can't, how do we handle legal responsibilities in this sort of case?

There's a lot of good material to discuss here.


I assume they are getting down voted because their statement is emotional and seemingly unsupported (seems to ignore child support). After accounting for child support, they should have similar resources. We can further investigate this when comparing to intact families - single parents of either sex have wealth gaps with intact families, yet outcomes in single father families tend to be close to the outcomes of the intact families. We would probably need more research into the topic to find concrete causes, but there doesn't seem to be much interest in that.

I would have a lot more money even with child support just because I earn so much more than my wife.

So in avg man earn more and have more carerse because they do not stay at home for the children.

Also guess who normally gets custody? Yeah the mother. So having a man getting custidy is not normal at all. This skews the data massivly.

So as long as we are not experts here but a group of men earning above avg, we might not stereotype and dismiss genders.


"I would have a lot more money even with child support just because I earn so much more than my wife."

That depends on the state, especially looking at after tax income due to the tax treatment on both sides.

"So having a man getting custidy is not normal at all. "

I agree there could be bias there. I think if we looked at households with deceased parents and then controlled for income, that would present a good elimination of bias.


There should be a cap in all states of child support. And independent of this, the person with a lot more income can do things the other person can't like getting a nani.

And lets be honest here: A single father is so rare that this alone raises eyebrows and questions. Ironically more like positive reactions and dismissive ones against the woman.


Most states do not have a cap.

I don't agree that the rarity may present bias.


"Why should anyone else have to do the work that he/she/they didn't bother with?"

Because they are curious (consistent with the culture of this site). They would also be more likely to trust their own sources, I assume.


Trusting sources because they are your "own" is just asking for bias to be ingrained.

Yet it's well known that if you want someone to change their mind it's most likely to occur if they think it's their own idea/doing. You're more likely to argue with me than if you just read sources you found and independently came to the conclusion.

Not the same person, but here's something. Just to note, the income portion mention might be lacking additional investigation as child support is typically not accounted for in income numbers.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/why-single-father-households-...


The buried lede in that link is that mothers who don't have custody of their children are more likely to remain in close emotional contact with their children than fathers are when in the same position. So children living with dad still benefit from having both parents involved in their upbringing. Which undermines OP's assertion that this child would be better off without their mother around.

Yes, involvement from both parents seems to be the major factor regardless of sex. There is likely additional research needed on why fathers disengage more when the mother has primary custody. With a majority of single parent households being headed by mothers, it seems another area ripe for research is how unlikely it is that the majority of fathers are disengaged to create such a large effect on the whole single mother cohort. Likewise, with the way custody tends to be grated in court, you would expect single father households to have a higher percentage of unengaged mothers due if it was determined that the mothers were the lesser choice for child welfare. I would guess looking at outcomes where one parent died would mostly control for that support mechanism.

And even if a genome change exists, it may not show up in the offspring depending on which version of gamete they're derived from.

I'm at a different comapny and it's the same. They have some basic framework/matrix, but managers aren't going to help you get to the next level. In my experience the matrix isn't followed anyways - they promote whoever they want whether or not they meet the stuff in the matrix. It's all just opinion based anyways.

The people I know leaving that sector have been steadily leaving for years due to the day to day bullshit/internal politics and poor leadership that they have to put up with, not the pay nor current administration.

Right but if you're a lifelong gov worker you are probably used to the pay, and it's hard to switch from gov work to startups or big tech (at least, I would see it as a thing to question). Whereas the GGP talks about people switching from the private sector (adtech, etc.) to public.

The first thing they are going to see is the salary and run a mile. That's partly why Palantir 'works'; they pay tech salaries and have a tech culture, but do gov work. Booz Allen et al were less advanced prototypes of that as well.


I know people who have switched to gov work despite the pay. Then they left due to the bullshit, without anything lined up.

"We make plenty of stuff at scale."

Not the stuff that matters (chips, electronics, metals, etc). We don't even have a primary lead smelter, which we would likely need if we got into a peer conflict.

It's also important to note that the US lacks the ability to quickly pivot and set up plants. Much of the knowledge to do so has been disappearing as employment in that sector has been steadily declining for decades. Sure we make stuff at scale using automation, but that automation can't be changed to significantly different stuff in a reasonable timeframe.


We suck at ultra-heavy industry that outputs commodities. We're great at light industry, or specialised heavy industry, which includes a lot of electronics. You're correct on inflexibility.

Can you give some specific examples of what light industry we are great at?

Pharmaceuticals, medical devices and craft food and beverage products come to mind. Guns and ammo, too.

Yeah, even if we can produce them now, we don't have the pipeline to keep them running - steel for guns comes from other countries, we don't have a primary lead smelter in the country, medical devices that rely on electronics rely on foreign components, etc. The only reason pharma can operate here is because of the regulations, and even then many components chemicals are sourced internationally.

Worked as a chemical systems technician for a bit. Can confirm, lots of the chemicals we used (most, some of which were pharma grade but we weren't pharma), had to come from either China or Germany. And we really did try to source as much in the US as possible. So it wasn't even a question of cost, it was simply no one here wanted to make what we needed.

Now granted, I'm not naive enough to think we should be able to be self-sufficient and manufacture everything ourselves. I think it is fine to import stuff. My bigger concern is, for some things, there just isn't a lot of options. I think its fine to buy some of the raw materials from Germany and China, but I'd also like to see a few more countries that they could be bought from.


I don't think there's a ton of strategic value in on-shoring commodities unless your goal is to be able to take on the entire world at once.

Commodities are commodities, you can get them almost anywhere so you're not dependent on any one nation.


We don't even produce things like bolts, screws, and springs.

If we suddenly had to, it would take billions of dollars and several months to spin up any real capacity.


More like years. Perhaps decades if you needed to do it at scale across entire supply chains all at once.

All this stuff requires people. And we simply don’t have them. The folks who could be trained to build such stuff are still in primary school.


The folks who could be trained to build such stuff are being either deported or harassed for daring to come to the US for studying.

A quarter of steel used in the U.S. is imported, and of that quarter, 40% comes from Mexico and Canada; very little comes from China[0]. So, not only does your point fall flat, the people we get steel from are our neighbors so it'd make sense to not sour with relationships with them like the current admin is doing with chaotic trade policy and invasion threats.

I really don't understand the FUD around US manufacturing capability, you'd essentially need to craft the greatest conspiracy ever to think that every politician, defense agency, intelligence agency, etc. is asleep at the wheel to not recognize this supposed threat and do nothing about it.

0: https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/where-does-us-ge...


> 40% comes from Mexico and Canada

Where do you think this originates from?

China ships a rather large amount of stuff to these countries to take advantage of the trade agreements. So much that you can find satellite images of large yards in Mexico that are used for this purpose with barely any effort.


Okay, let's assume most of their steel is Chinese (I have my doubts because, yet again, more conspiracies), we only import a quarter of the steel we use. That would hurt losing it overnight, sure, but we wouldn't be absolutely toast like the autarkists are saying.

These takes are much more doomer than I'm willing to bet the supporters of "bring everything back" realize. Do you have no faith in the US economy / populace adapting to a hypothetical all out war with China?


Personally I have little to no faith in the adaptability of the US workforce for such things. It would be a generational shift. Exceedingly few people even have basic mechanical skills these days.

It’s not like WWII where you have a majority population that works on the farm or in a factory with their hands, and at home fixing stuff that breaks. That sort of population can be rapidly redeployed. We would need to start from the basics like “how to turn a screwdriver” for a huge portion of the workforce.

When you really start looking into things, nearly everything points back to China at some point. Pharmaceuticals? The APIs or at least important precursors largely originate there - even if they hit a middleman country first. Then you get into basic components and it’s the same story. That part from India or Mexico might not be available without China as a backstop.

It’s not an impossible problem, but it’s a problem that took decades and a generation or two to destroy. It’s far easier and quicker to destroy things than build them.


Have you heard about the great toilet paper scarcity of 2020 during covid? and facemasks? US couldn't make either toilet paper or facemasks or ventilators or build hospital beds or anything that matters when the entire economy was at risk of shutdown.

I have a feeling that China doesn't export much steel. They more likely export their steel in the form of finished products.

Once the glasses become popular, so will jammers. By jammers I mean audio and visual disruption to make the recordings unusable, or nearly so.

What are you jamming here? The wireless connection? Wouldn't the recorded data just be cached on device until out of the jamming range?

You would be jamming the audio and video, not the wireless (that is generally illegal). They have some devices to do this already with different noise generators and overloading the camera sensors to cause unidentifiable images (especially with IR night vision).

Heck, I'd buy a jammer now if one were available at a reasonable price.

There should be no safety reason to require audio. The only reason for audio is later use for prosecution.

It's not just that they don't want to piss off the lawyers. If they don't provide a private location, then they may be forced to take continuances and recesses so those conversations can happen elsewhere as a condition of not infringing on the constitutional right to effective counsel.


Might be quicker to detect disturbances using audio too rather than video only, think of ShotSpotter. Sounds made up though and probably either a way to spy or chill speech.

But ShotSpotter doesn't actually work (almost every alert is a false positive). So what value would this add?

No totally, I can't imagine it either, I was just trying to give it a charitable assumption.

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