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Could your (or someone) tell me whether you considered startpage.com at all? I tried both and I liked sp better.


What I'm curious about is how the low-income class is living in/around SF. I mean, there are waiters, cashiers, plumbers, assistants... where do they find affordable housing?


living in tenderloin/bayview/hunters point, furiously searching craigslist for gems, living in the east bay, being a live-in boyfriend/girlfriend


But again - why would you choose to rent if you can own? Rent is thousands of dollars thrown out the window each year. Mortgage (or buying with cash) is the same, with the exception that at the end 1) you own a property that you could, if need be, sell for roughly the same amount you threw out and 2) you stop paying for housing for the rest of your life (minus repairs, yes, but that's insignificatn compared to paying rent every month - or otherwise landlords wouldn't be profitable).


Maintaining a home can cost more than you might imagine. The reason it is profitable for landlords (at least for apartments) is due to the fact there many are paying rent within the same building (economy of scale).

Second, taxes are significant. Where I live (Fargo, ND) property taxes equal a rent payment alone. So it almost makes more sense (monetarily) to pay rent and invest the extra money into something more lucrative than a home.


Could you explain why you think you, as a renter, don't pay property taxes?


Oh I am sure I do. That does not change the fact that for a $250k home I would pay ~400 a month in taxes (of course more or less depending on a variety of factors). Rent is currently $550 for a nice two bedroom apartment with balcony and heat included.

Let's not forget that I have to heat that house all winter, which is a couple hundred a month in and of itself. I could go on.


Probably because it's split between everyone renting in the building, and while the tax is higher, it's not so much higher that you end up effectively paying the same amount.

At least, that's my guess.


Because the IRS doesn't think I'm responsible for it.


What country do you work in?


UK (London). I have some friends (particularly financial industry) who work lots of overtime, but it doesn't feel like it's a "normal" thing, at least IME.


Reminds me of a security hacker's refusal to work on a project intercepting Whatsapp messages of Saudi Arabian telco customers. http://www.thoughtcrime.org/blog/saudi-surveillance/

This is something I think about a lot, too. But recently, I am thinking that ethics can't survive in a non-ethical world - especially in one that doesn't respect ethics.

It's very prevalent, too, not just in engineering. To give a different example: does Adriana Lima stop and think about what Victoria's Secret does to body image issues for girls? That the mass-media promotion of a model's figure gives a too high standard for beauty? No. She takes the money and models. Not only that - but we love her for it. She is insanely popular.

Now in such a world - if given the chance to model, wouldn't you? Even if you are morally against promoting 38000$ clothing items in a world where there are still starving children, even though you think it's absurd that all magazines have skinny female figures on their covers -- if given a chance to make a lot of money by modeling, wouldn't you take it?

By denying yourself the opportunity, you are 1) extremely unlikely to change the system, because you're not so unique that without you things wouldn't work and 2) not even getting appreciated for the ethical choice you made.


There are plenty of people with Victoria Secret levels of body fat percentage walking around in Asia. They are the norm by far, probably over %80 of the under-35 population there are that skinny or even skinnier, and it's not because they are starving. It's not Adriana Lima's fault that we live in a food culture and industry that pushes toward obesity. You don't have to be anorexic or bulimic to be that skinny, but you'll have to be constantly telling no to almost everyone to trying to invite you to eat more and more crap.

A coworker in a previous job was asked by her Korean coworkers at LG to take pictures of how fat people got in new jersey because they, never, ever saw people get that fat in Korea.


Let's be honest here, Korean food's not that exciting - it can be good, sure, but there's not a lot of variety. Plus, if you eat too much of their chilli and vinegar dominated kimchi, you wind up with stomach cancer. ("It is the leading cancer type in Korea, with 20.8% of malignant neoplasms.") That probably contributes to less fat people. Also, they're more image-centric than Hollywood! (I used to work above a Korean plastic surgery in Hollywood, it was a veritable production line)


I think the stomach cancer comes from the sodium actually, the Japanese have a similar problem. But you have to look at these causes of death on an even basis too. Cancer is a higher cause of death in Korea than heart disease, that's fairly impressive!


IIRC most of Asia / developing countries without inactive lifestyles, overzealous meat consumption and fatty/sugary modern pretend-foods don't have issues with heart disease.


Not the same thing. Once you're in a US college, you can pick your major, whether that's English or STEM. But for Medicine or MBA, you need to be admitted to a postgraduate program. I remained a STEM because I didn't have the grades for medicine. Didn't "choose".


that's a good point, shows my European bias. In France at least, entering in medicine or decent engineer career path requires similar level of grades. Entering into a MBA would be similar to get a very good engineer degree (grade-wise, skills being different obviously)


I am tearing up from laughter at these emails and their responses.


But you can't extract the content from CL when you do. If you have your textfile and pictures on your drive, feel free to publish to wherever. But you can't take that data from CL servers and do the same. that is a shortcut and krrb is trying to equate posting with user's computer data with posting from cl server data. they are not the same.


Well technically an author, too, isn't allowed to scrape content from CL. Just like an author of a book is not authorized to make a copy of his own book. Can't break publisher's rules.

It is just that, with a copy-paste job, it would be impossible to detect this, which is why they seem functionally equivalent. But actually they're not.

Also automation and convenience have huge legal implications. I can, for example buy an iPod in the US and gift it to a friend of mine in Turkey. We have effectively circumvented state tax. I can't, however, write a website that acts as a broker between US passengers landing in Istanbul airport, and people who want cheap iPods. Even though they would be technically paired up with a "friend" and would be within their legal rights to bring valuable goods into the country.

I can have a friend stay a few days at my house, but I can't turn my house into a hotel with Airbnb. Volume and convenience affect the bottom line for different parties.


LOL Hilarious :D :D


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