This story was news to me, and I haven't seen it in a couple of years here.

The only part here not news is Steve Jobs/Apple acting like jackasses--the particulars of the story are interesting.

Same here, and it's one of the most interesting pieces I've read in a while.

> This story was news to me, and I haven't seen it in a couple of years here.

Which is it?

Pretty sure the meaning of the sentence is, "It's was news to me, I haven't seen it posted here during the couple years I've been a member"

Interestingly, he was also a close mentor to Larry Page and Sergey Brin :)

> Interestingly, he was also a close mentor to Larry Page and Sergey Brin

The probably derived their "Don't be evil" from taking the reciprocal of what Steve Jobs "mentored" them.

uh... and how's that working out.

Come on, "Don't be evil" is just clever marketing that a lot of people fell for at first, and some still do.

Absolutely! This sort of jingoism at corporate level, the sort of moral imperative front-facing cleverly marketed idealism is the new religion, I swear. I can understand when a company puts itself "out there" with "Being the best" or "Customer first" or some bullshit like that. But when the rhetoric enters the realm of good ol' fashioned morality and talks about Good and Evil .. yoh! ... Our bs sensors should now be howling, thanks to companies like Google.

Please tell us what you REALLY think. :)

Not true. He was a distant mentor, not a close mentor. He did the same for Zuckerberg.

If it gets to the frontpage, it's because it was upvoted by people who hadn't seen it before. If you've already seen it, you don't need to click it.

It gets upvoted because anti-Apple and Anti-Jobs stories feed the drooling hordes who seem to have become the majority here.

> News is supposed to be new, correct?

I don't think there is any rule on HN that says that all submitted stuff has to be new.

There isn't. Stuff gets posted all the time with [year] in the title; if it's interesting it gets upvoted.

It's highly probable that someone saw it while checking out the aufond.me demo a few points down the front page (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5879071)

http://aufond.me/sivers/got-dissed-by-steve-jobs

That's exactly what happened.

The only reason why I submitted it is that it was news to me.

HN already does a check, if the submission is recent. For older submissions, very wisely, PG decided that they can be resubmitted - lots of interesting stuff comes out from time to time that is new to newcomers.

I'm glad it was posted. I hadn't read it before and was glad to have done so. Its not like I'm going to spend my life searching through three years of archives to find interesting stuff.

I should've put 2010 in the title. HN shouldn't have allowed it if it was a problem/against the rules.

You can try to hit HN search or something, but if you didn't purposefully alter the URL to make it "unique" and the system accepted it, then you are playing by the rules that matter. Meta-disagreements from the community, notwithstanding, I appreciated your post. People like to complain. It's something you expose yourself to when you participate in a community.

Keep in mind that detained may be for a long time, indefinitely in solitary confinement and without charges, in one of the many prisons the US government has been building in recent years: http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-prison-industry-in-the-unit...

And it's an easy win for prosecutors. Looks good on their résumé.

No need to apologize. Thank you for reposting the link.

Anyone who hasn't tried the Trello iPhone app should check it out. It's free and even better than the website version.

Yeah, the iPhone app is sweet. I mainly use it for capturing tasks when I'm not at home. It's nice to finally have one place to put things.

Also on Android.

I saw the Krispy Kreme video. That lady takes great pride in her donuts! A valuable lesson of how asking someone who does the same thing, day in and day out to try something different can sometimes be met with great appreciation.

I think there's more to it than what the other two comments described. No doubt there is human moderation on HN (beyond users flagging submissions I mean), and maybe a list of domains and keywords to keep some stories from ever hitting front page, even when the submission gets a lot of votes in a short amount of time.

Who knows what the reasons why they'd keep a story off the front page. The moderation is emo at times, even resorting to hellbanning, slowbanning etc.

Slashdot moderation is way better. It's a better overall system over there.

Not sure what you're looking to do, but have you seen Zamzar? http://zamzar.com

Monetize, improve, rinse and repeat.

No, that's closer to market socialism than capitalism.

I thought you weren't an expert on alternative economies?

First, market socialism is socialism with elements from capitalism, so the particular mechanism (ad-hoc black markets) is a capitalist one, regardless of where it came from.

Second, in market socialism, the market is legal and "white". In North Korea, they are very much not legal - thus, "black".

Interestingly, the resilience of markets to pop up anywhere there's a need, regardless of legality or formal training in how to run them, tells us something about capitalism and it's inherent compatibility with human nature.