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Nobody is waiting on an RFC to make configuration changes to those devices to disable old cipher suites.

The separation of “OS X” and “macOS” gives me pause about the reliability of the other figures, particularly Linux and Chrome OS.

The last release of OS X was 11 years ago but this site shows it having over twice as many users as macOS. It's totally implausible.

I haven't done any investigation but some scraper and/or bot configuration uses OS X as its user agent.

I run an unpublished service used by 1s of people and was hit by an influx of supposed OS X user agents that didn't correspond to my actual user base.


Did you run any advanced TCP fingerprinting techniques to dig a bit deeper?

Well, guess it's worth spending a little time looking at it.

It appears that it's the Cloudflare Security Center scanning service? This would also explain how my unpublished service was located as I use Cloudflare for my DNS.


Regardless, they're the same OS, so any serious (read: competent) person compiling stats like this would combine them into the same bucket.

I saw reddit and turned around already

I don’t think a non-crap general purpose Bluetooth stack exists. The “specification” is garbage and the implementations tend to be garbage also.

AI won’t be replacing first year apprentices crawling through ceilings for $11 an hour while either you or I are still alive.

It’s not that we can’t do it today, it’s because like orbital data centres, it is nowhere close to being economically sensible.

Electrical and other safety-critical work very sensibly requires a skilled human to sign off on the results. This important safety requirement seems incompatible with your vision.


Neither of these are challenges at all for semi-modern card systems.

Perhaps, rather than AI, Reddit’s growing hostility to its own users might be the main driver of users away from Reddit.

+1 i had a reddit account maybe 10 years ago and deleted it for this same reason. can only imagine how insufferable it is today.

I had lane keeping “assist” in a Subaru Forrester rental car almost kill me and my family by trying to push us into the path of a very large truck last year.

Mine is paying for my masters right now. It’s not unusual.

> I think the average person here in Aussie land would have to agree it's having a positive effect - it's working.

My eldest daughter, and my various teenage nieces (all of whom are under 16) have mostly forgotten that this ban even exists. They’ve continued using the same apps exactly as they did before.

One of my daughter’s 15 year old friends was locked out of Snapchat for about 15 minutes, until she had another 14 year old friend pass the facial recognition test on her behalf.


The ban does not need to be absolute, as I already mentioned in the above reply. To work, it doesn't need to be, to enforce absolutely would be a freaking nightmare, though vested social media interests would like the public to believe that's how it has to be if they are to better enforce the ban.

Frankly stopping every kid accessing social media is not the holy grail, social media interests know full well the ban goes to the core of the nasty PII scraping algorithms targeting young impressionable teens along with poor content moderation which was raised at the end of the 10s. Of course the social media areas are upset now, one of their cash cows has been removed from them.

Notably the ban does do one of a few things, namely parents in Australia now carry a burden of responsibility if their kid knowingly visits and consequently gets themselves or others into a great mess of trouble though engagement at such sites.

There will be parents who are well aware / with their blessing, that their kid visits these social media areas and such as the law stands, the kids would be doing soon the basis of a very considered judgement call by their parents - they are not going to run amok and are strong / smart and well behaved enough to avoid the hidden dangers of these areas, and for the most part nothing remarkable will result.

I have seen the other side where parents wanted their kids out and away from social media areas for various reasons, too distracted, tired or even the poor manners it seemed to be instilling, but were powerless to sever their child's connection with various social media areas.

As we are talking personal accounts, not that I meet many people, but I've yet to meet any that were unhappy about the ban.

I could be biased of course and just ignoring subtle signs they were merely agreeing with me. I personally know a couple who were dragged though the courts a few years ago because to they dared to remove the smart phone from their child who was somewhat susceptible to this social media stuff ... the folks at children's services should have known better and of course it escalated - to prop up BS, more BS. It was totally ridiculous by end, and cost the couple near 10 grand in legal fees and fractured the family.


> The ban does not need to be absolute, as I already mentioned in the above reply. To work, it doesn't need to be, to enforce absolutely would be a freaking nightmare, though vested social media interests would like the public to believe that's how it has to be if they are to better enforce the ban.

To be considered effective it would’ve had at least some substantial impact on the target group, which in my observation it hasn’t.


Well there's certainly at least one major thing I've noticed. Have you seen any recent Australian based news footage of little under 16 hoons that have uploaded their stream to social media of them stealing cars and going for wild rides lately on tv or some other media area ... or likewise any local content of under 16 youngsters based here posting their escapades in some sort of competition to fan the flames of some new dangerous meme? I know it's been some months for myself.

Now if you can recall something recent from one of those areas where under 16s were banned, I suggest you should inform and send links to the e safety folks, they'll be dead keen on any evidence like that.

Though it seems like the rules was just meant for social media companies to clean up ... much like under age driving, it also means parents of less savvy, vulnerable, sensitive children need to be proactive as well. I note plenty of young lads in my locale ride motorbikes on the roads under age, but they seem capable and it's also rural, so not that big a big deal. I am also sure plenty of parents can gauge if their child is quite capable to operate safely using these social media areas where the ban has taken effect.


It absolutely would not have received a positive reception at an event like DEF CON. They’ve always had a strict photo policy.

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