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> But watching some pros go at it on paper + pen, I do get this feeling that when you don't have the undo button you really do gotta force yourself to get good at the nitty gritty. Really you need to get good at drawing lines nicely the first time when you're inking to paper.

Often you envision what the line will look like in your head before placing. And then you have the motor skills/experience to recreate that line well. They're just some of the micro-skills that encompass "drawing".


I think my stance for AI definitely somewhere between these two options. A sentiment I often see is being staunchly anti-AI in any way, and I'm definitely not that. I feel like that is the more useful divide too, anti-AI vs open to AI. Being open to AI doesn't mean being one of those 'full steam ahead' on anything and everything AI though.


I've never met anyone in my life who vacuums at that rate. Not sure if your personal germophobia counts as a counterpoint.


You don't know anyone with pets that shed a lot? Most of my shedding pet friends try to vacuum daily, and if a day is missed it is very obvious.

People that don't vacuum that frequently, I'd assume, are also the type of people that don't clean a litter box for a week instead of daily.


3 dogs, 3 cats. 45 seconds with a broom once a day does the trick…


I love these exaggerations. It doesn't help the conversation at all. Sort of like the recipes that say it takes "a couple of minutes" to brown onions.


If you get a robot that automated it you'll feel the difference. Floors get a lot of dust. Especially if you have pets but even without.

I would not personally vacuum daily but having completely automated, vacuuming and mopping, every day has produced wonderful floors. Less work than what we did before too.

There's no germs involved here. Dustin on the floor is dirty socks, and you can peel crumbs and other things under foot under foot. It all goes away if floors are cleaned daily.


Easy counter: people with children. We vacuum the dining area daily because of the kid.

We also have building ventilation that is sadly unfiltered, so we have more dust than normal coming in.

We don't vacuum everything daily but a robot would really help us, we just won't buy an internet connected one or something that's very pricey. Our existing vacuum is crazy efficient and quiet.


I also vacuum my dining/kitchen area daily, I actually sweep de re vacuuming, and it only takes me a couple of minutes to do it and this is part of the many things I wouldn't even want to get rid of as it is one among many other things thay allows my body to be active.

Some people install domotic, always choose escalators and elevators over stairs, do everything they need to not move their ass during the day only to pay for a gym pass and spend more time at the gym than they have provably saved avoiding "living".


I empathise, but vacuuming is super boring. I'd give up 3 months of life to never have to vacuum again. I think…


Corporations should be assumed to act in line with their interests, which is the bottom line. "Morality" isn't the lens that you need to try to view them through to understand their intentions and actions. But yes, their motivations pretty much always lay outside of any moral good due to the nature of them.


Yeah ok, the bear isn't evil but it will still maul you on sight.


> the bear isn't evil but it will still maul you on sight

The bear still has unified agency. Corporations do not. (No group of people do.) More than the wind, less than a bear. And I think their flaws are probably shared by all large human organisations.


They're lawnmowers[1], not bears.

1: https://youtu.be/-zRN7XLCRhc?t=33m1s


Isn't unified agency the point of forming an organization? The organization generally elects leaders to direct the actions of the organization for some common purpose, e.g. through policies and direct decisions, and they can (or should) be held accountable for those actions.


Maybe this is taking it too far, but anyway: corporations don't have any agency. They are not persons. The organization and constellation of interests of corporations may be such that:

1. immoral people (such as psychopaths) will be disproportionately at the helm of large corporations

2. regular people will make immoral decisions, because to do otherwise would be against their own interests or because the consequences / moral impact are hidden from their awareness

There is no way to act in life that isn't in some sense moral or political, because it also impacts others and you are always responsible for your what you do (or don't do). And corporations are just a bunch of people doing stuff together. To maintain otherwise is in itself a (im)moral act, intentionally or not, see point 2 above.


If corporations are not people then why are their ads full of elements that make us feel warm and fuzzy?

We're being tricked!


you live in a bubble.

my mom who barely knows how to use her own phone uses ChatGPT every day

just an anecdotal example.

this shit ain't close.

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but seriously, ChatGPT has wayyyy more name recognition than google's AI.


Name recognition is a different goal post than usage. OP's original comment was "Who's sitting there talking to Gemini though?"


This seems like a very flat view of intelligence. In my mind a sufficiently intelligent person isn't just "good at math" and is capable of understanding the landscapes you've laid out above and would also understand how to improve in them and to navigate them, assuming they're sufficiently motivated. Even then, intelligent people are better at parsing themselves, their own drives, knowing what they want and are motivated by and move towards it. I also think many of the most intelligent people I know are (gasp) extremely mature as well, as if those often go hand-in-hand.

This sort of feels like a cope-comment trying to say that smart people aren't ACTUALLY smart, but I'm not sure the motivation for that.


> This seems like a very flat view of intelligence.

Yes, because the article leads with that. But I think we're actually in agreement.

I make a distinction between intelligence and wisdom, something I thought about from D&D.

Intelligence is having accurate models. Quick thinking, and correct predictions.

Wisdom is about making good decisions. Risk control, understanding rewards.

Both are a mental qualities we appreciate in people, but often we are more dazzled by intelligence, and we often mistake wisdom for intelligence.


I also had frequent BSOD issues because of a Focusrite audio interface, lol. I've since thrown it out and gotten an alternative brand product and have never had the issues again.


I don't think the phenomenon you're describing is a result of the amount of effort put into the piece.


This is called building your 'catalogue' in art, especially concept art. In order to draw something (well) from imagination, you should draw it from reference many times. Then when you draw from imagination, your brain will pull from what it knows. And since you studied the subjects, the textures, the shapes, etc, so well, you will have that stored away and will be able to do so.


what is the reference here, out of curiosity


I am referencing one of the sound-effects contained in General MIDI. GM gives you many sounda of instruments like piano, harpsichord, guitar etc.

But it also contains these (much to the fun of everybody who ever played around with a GM keyboard):

  125 Telephone Ring
  126 Helicopter
  127 Applause
  128 Gunshot


I can clearly hear in my head myself repeatedly playing middle C and going through that sequence of patches.


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