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Background: from this video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pp9MwZkHiMQ)

Floxk AI is a startup that apparently runs highly suspicious police data collection services. As a fun bonus, it sells this data to private bidders and retains no liability for any mess-ups.

Apparently, it uses a Bluetooth system to relay some of this information. And seems to generally have awful security...

Any thoughts? Or further projects on this?



A lot of news... not too much technical.

The real scandal seems to be the use of data brokers' data, re-selling/owning the data collected from publicly funded cameras, and also using bluetooth and ostensibly other outdated security.


The scandals you mention have been reported on in depth by 404media, which has led to state and congressional investigation. A Google search will provide technical details about their cameras and the Android/hardware stack that operates them.


I have a couple hundred books. Has anyone managed to use puppeteer or selenium or something to automate it? This will take hours.


This is insane... we should not be throwing away good tech because of planned obsolescence and relying on groveling to customer service to use tech that we bought...


OK, then just buy a new Kindle if you feel groveling is beneath you? I’ll admit that’s an even quicker solution.


Just glossed right over that e-waste part, eh?


yes, just like everyone does lol. people only bring up e-waste when they’ve run out of real points to make.

The save-the-environment ship has sailed. It’s not even a point worth engaging with. You really think that if every kindle ever made would magically last forever that the environment still wouldn’t be fucked beyond belief?


Defeatism is gross.

We can all of us individually, and all of us collectively, do better.

You are quite literally the problem.


We are all quite literally the problem.


Whatever helps you sleep at night.


Lol I sleep fine at night.

I don’t eat meat, I live in a small apartment, I don’t drive, I don’t fly, I don’t have kids. I buy crap I don’t need though.

I’ll put myself up against nearly anyone else in the developed world as far as carbon footprint goes.


E-waste, monetary waste (all this work in a good product-- only to be actively destroyed so that you have to buy a new one!), customer rights (it wouldn't be legal for someone to break your item with a hammer, so why with code?), and also just generally monopolistic anti-competitive market manipulation (this wouldn't fly in any competitive sector!)

We, as consumers, have a right to be mad about this stuff... this is why we have the Consumer Protection Bureau and the Federal Trade Commission.


>When companies fuck you over you should keep buying from them

Yea this is dumb advice. Are you a stock holder?


How is it being fucked over if I pay for something and get value from it? I’m not entitled to my Kindle working forever just because I bought it today.


>I’m not entitled to my Kindle working forever just because I bought it today.

Yes you are. This is how it worked for nearly all of history. Its the entire point of the right to repair movement, to prevent companies from this scummy model of demanding a subscription for everything and trying to stop people from owning anything. Buying a Kindle over and over again benefits no one but Amazon and their stock holders. Its even more disgusting that the OP's Kindle broke because Amazon broke it on purpose.


> This is how it worked for nearly all of history

I don’t see you saying this about how we used to die if we got an infection.

Times change.

> Buying a Kindle over and over again benefits no one but Amazon and their stock holders.

It benefits me! The kindle I bought last year is many times more enjoyable to use than the one I bought a decade ago.


>The kindle I bought last year is many times more enjoyable to use than the one I bought a decade ago.

I know you're trolling, but in what way? Ebooks were always light, the only meaningful innovations have been sort of having color, getting bigger, and a stylus. Those are legitimate reasons to upgrades, everything else is software that could be updated.

>Times change.

People being in abusive relationships and thinking its good for them have existed forever. See how I didn't bring up something completely irrelevant to the conversation to make a point.


> I know you're trolling, but in what way

No, I am not trolling.

It is faster to turn pages, it has more storage, the screen is better, it has a light. If you want to include the scribe, it has a much bigger screen and I can write/draw on it.

It’s like your computer or phone. Would you really be thrilled to be using the 2015 version of those things today?


TLDR: Some people have been throwing around “China,” but it seems also quite possible that Jia is from somewhere in Eastern Europe pretending to be from China. In addition, Lasse Collin and Hans Jansen are from the same EET time zone.

These are my notes on time stamps/zones. There are a few interesting bits that I haven't fully fleshed out.

The following analysis was conducted on JiaT75’s (https://github.com/JiaT75?tab=overview&from=2021-12-01&to=20...) commits to the XZ repository, and their time stamps.

Observation 1: Time zone basic analysis

Here is the data on Jia’s time zone and the number of times he was recorded in that time zone:

3: + 0200 (in winter: February and November)

6: +0300 (in summer: in Jun, Jul, early October)

440: +0800

1. The +800 is likely CST. China (or Indonesia or Philippines), given that Australia does daylight savings time and almost no one lives in Siberia and the Gobi dessert.

2. The +0200/+0300, if we are assuming that this is one location, is likely on EET (Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Moldavia, Romania, Bulgaria, Greece, Turkey). This is because we see a switch from +300 in the winter (past the last weekend of October) and +200 in the summer (past the last Sunday in March).

Incidentally, this seems to be the same time zone as Lasse Collin and Hans Jansen…

Observation 2: Time zone inconsistencies

Let’s analyze the few times where Jia was recorded in a non +800 time zone. Here, we notice that there are some situations where Jia switches between +800 and +300/+200 in a seemingly implausible time. Indicating that perhaps he is not actually in +800 CST time, as his profile would like us to believe.

Jia Tan Tue, 27 Jun 2023 23:38:32 +0800 —> 23:38 + 8 = 7:30 (+ 1) Jia Tan Tue, 27 Jun 2023 17:27:09 +0300 —> 17:27 + 3 = 20:30 —> about a 9 hour difference, but flight from China to anywhere in Eastern Europe is at a min 10 hours

Jia Tan Thu, 5 May 2022 20:53:42 +0800

Jia Tan Sat, 19 Nov 2022 23:18:04 +0800

Jia Tan Mon, 7 Nov 2022 16:24:14 +0200

Jia Tan Sun, 23 Oct 2022 21:01:08 +0800

Jia Tan Thu, 6 Oct 2022 21:53:09 +0300 —> 21:53 + 3 = 1:00 (+1)

Jia Tan Thu, 6 Oct 2022 17:00:38 +0800 —> 17:00 + 8 = 1:00 (+1)

Jia Tan Wed, 5 Oct 2022 23:54:12 +0800

Jia Tan Wed, 5 Oct 2022 20:57:16 +0800

—> again, given the flight time, this is even more impossible

Jia Tan Fri, 2 Sep 2022 20:18:55 +0800

Jia Tan Thu, 8 Sep 2022 15:07:00 +0300

Jia Tan Mon, 25 Jul 2022 18:30:05 +0300

Jia Tan Mon, 25 Jul 2022 18:20:01 +0300

Jia Tan Fri, 1 Jul 2022 21:19:26 +0800

Jia Tan Thu, 16 Jun 2022 17:32:19 +0300

Jia Tan Mon, 13 Jun 2022 20:27:03 +0800

—> the ordering of these time stamps, and the switching back and forth looks strange.

Jia Tan Thu, 15 Feb 2024 22:26:43 +0800

Jia Tan Thu, 15 Feb 2024 01:53:40 +0800

Jia Tan Mon, 12 Feb 2024 17:09:10 +0200

Jia Tan Mon, 12 Feb 2024 17:09:10 +0200

Jia Tan Tue, 13 Feb 2024 22:38:58 +0800

—> this travel time is possible, but the duration of stay is unlikely

Observation 3: Strange record of time stamps It seems that from the commits, often the time stamps are out of order. I am not sure what would cause this other than some tampering.

Observation 4: Bank holiday inconsistencies

We notice that Jia’s work schedule and holidays seem to align much better with an Eastern European than a Chinese person.

Disclaimer: I am not an expert in Chinese holidays, so this very well could be inaccurate. I am referencing this list of bak holidays:(https://www.bankofchina.co.id/en-id/service/information/late...)

Chinese bank holidays (just looking at 2023):

- Working on 2023, 29 September: Mid Autumn Festival

- Working on 2023, 05 April: Tomb Sweeping Day

- Working on 2023, 26, 22, 23, 24, 26, 27 Jan: Lunar New Year

Eastern European holidays:

- Never working on Dec 25: Christmas (for many EET countries)

- Never working Dec 31 or Jan 1: New Years

Observation 5: No weekend work —> salary job?

The most common working days for Jia was Tue (86), Wed (85), Thu (89), and Fri (79). If we adjust his time zone to be EET, then that means he is usually working 9 am to 6 pm. This makes much more sense than someone working at midnight and 1 am on a Tuesday night.

These times also line up well with Hans Jansen and Lasse Collin.

I think it is more likely that Jia does this as part of his work… somewhere in Eastern Europe. Likely working with, or in fact being one and the same as, Hans Jansen and Lasse Collin.


You say yourself that the time data could be tampered. It's trivial to change commit dates in git. So this analysis means nothing by itself, unfortunately.


I wouldn't say that. This guy seems to have tried hard to appear Chinese (and possibly tampered the time stamps this way) – but based on that analysis, it seems plausible they did a bad job and were actually based out of Eastern Europe.


I asked ChatGPT 4 based on Jia's Github avatar image:

The timezones that ChatGPT thinks the avatar comes from aligns with +2 and +3, see what how it ranked and at the end the description of Jia's avatar:

---

Rank, Score, Country, City, Timezone, Criteria

1, 10, Saudi Arabia, Mecca, AST (UTC+3), Heartland of Islam, deeply rooted calligraphic traditions.

2, 9.5, Iran, Tehran, IRST (UTC+3:30), Integral Persian calligraphy with a distinct style and history.

3, 9, Turkey, Istanbul, TRT (UTC+3), Historical significance of Ottoman calligraphy, actively preserved.

4, 8.5, Egypt, Cairo, EET (UTC+2), Home to Al-Azhar University, with calligraphy in the curriculum.

5, 8, Morocco, Marrakech, WET (UTC+0), Calligraphy integrated into architecture and crafts.

6, 7.5, United Arab Emirates, Abu Dhabi, GST (UTC+4), Promotes Islamic arts through festivals and museums.

7, 7, Syria, Damascus, EET (UTC+2), Historical center of Arabic calligraphy, despite recent conflicts.

8, 6.5, Pakistan, Islamabad, PKT (UTC+5), Rich tradition, hosts several institutions and events dedicated to calligraphy.

9, 6, Indonesia, Jakarta, WIB (UTC+7), Largest Muslim-majority country with calligraphy in art and monuments.

10, 5.5, Spain, Cordoba, CET (UTC+1), Legacy of Islamic culture and appreciation for calligraphy, particularly in Andalusia.

--

GPT4: This image appears to be a stylized representation of the letter 'J' within an intricate border, possibly inspired by the art style of Islamic calligraphy. The ornate background is typical of arabesque patterns, which are characteristic of Islamic art and consist of repeating geometric forms that often echo the shapes of plants, flowers, and sometimes calligraphic writing. The letter 'J' stands out in a vibrant yellow, contrasting with the dark green of the surrounding design.


Interesting :). However, I think that EET is the only time zone that works. (This is mostly because is seems that the area follows DST, which most non western countries in the worlf do not).


This 2011 addition to the XZ Utils Wikipedia page is interesting because a) why is this relevant, b) who is Mike Kezner since he's not mentioned on the Tukaani project page (https://tukaani.org/about.html) under "Historical acknowledgments".

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=XZ_Utils&diff=pre...

Arch Linux played an important role in making this compression software trusted and depended upon. Perhaps not a coincidence, but at the very least, such a big project should more carefully consider the software they distribute and rely on, whether it's worth the risk.


> Arch Linux played an important role in making this compression software trusted and depended upon.

because of the way arch distributes packages? then what you think about freebsd?


If you check the history of that IP address, it added Mike Kezner to other pages. No clue why.



Notes on time stamps and time zones.

A few interesting bits that I haven't fully fleshed out. TLDR: Some people have been throwing around that Jia is from “China,” but it seems also quite possible that Jia is from somewhere in Eastern Europe pretending to be from China. In addition, Lasse Collin and Hans Jansen are from the same EET time zone.

The following analysis was conducted on JiaT75’s (https://github.com/JiaT75?tab=overview&from=2021-12-01&to=20...) commits to the XZ repository, and their time stamps.

Observation 1: Time zone basic analysis

Here is the data on Jia’s time zone and the number of times he was recorded in that time zone: 3: + 0200 (in winter: February and November) 6: +0300 (in summer: in Jun, Jul, early October) 440: +0800

1. The +800 is likely CST. China (or Indonesia or Philippines), given that Australia does daylight savings time and almost no one lives in Siberia and the Gobi dessert. 2. The +0200/+0300, if we are assuming that this is one location, is likely on EET (Finland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine, Moldavia, Romania, Bulgaria, Greece, Turkey). This is because we see a switch from +300 in the winter (past the last weekend of October) and +200 in the summer (past the last Sunday in March). 1. Incidentally, this seems to be the same time zone as Lasse Collin and Hans Jansen…

Observation 2: Time zone inconsistencies

Let’s analyze the few times where Jia was recorded in a non +800 time zone. Here, we notice that there are some situations where Jia switches between +800 and +300/+200 in a seemingly implausible time. Indicating that perhaps he is not actually in +800 CST time, as his profile would like us to believe.

Jia Tan Tue, 27 Jun 2023 23:38:32 +0800 —> 23:38 + 8 = 7:30 (+ 1) Jia Tan Tue, 27 Jun 2023 17:27:09 +0300 —> 17:27 + 3 = 20:30 —> about a 9 hour difference, but a flight from China to anywhere in Eastern Europe is at a min 10 hours

Jia Tan Thu, 5 May 2022 20:53:42 +0800 Jia Tan Sat, 19 Nov 2022 23:18:04 +0800 Jia Tan Mon, 7 Nov 2022 16:24:14 +0200 Jia Tan Sun, 23 Oct 2022 21:01:08 +0800 Jia Tan Thu, 6 Oct 2022 21:53:09 +0300 —> 21:53 + 3 = 1:00 (+1) Jia Tan Thu, 6 Oct 2022 17:00:38 +0800 —> 17:00 + 8 = 1:00 (+1) Jia Tan Wed, 5 Oct 2022 23:54:12 +0800 Jia Tan Wed, 5 Oct 2022 20:57:16 +0800 —> again, given the flight time, this is even more impossible

Jia Tan Fri, 2 Sep 2022 20:18:55 +0800 Jia Tan Thu, 8 Sep 2022 15:07:00 +0300 Jia Tan Mon, 25 Jul 2022 18:30:05 +0300 Jia Tan Mon, 25 Jul 2022 18:20:01 +0300 Jia Tan Fri, 1 Jul 2022 21:19:26 +0800 Jia Tan Thu, 16 Jun 2022 17:32:19 +0300 Jia Tan Mon, 13 Jun 2022 20:27:03 +0800 —> the ordering of these time stamps and the switching back and forth between time zones looks strange.

Jia Tan Thu, 15 Feb 2024 22:26:43 +0800 Jia Tan Thu, 15 Feb 2024 01:53:40 +0800 Jia Tan Mon, 12 Feb 2024 17:09:10 +0200 Jia Tan Mon, 12 Feb 2024 17:09:10 +0200 Jia Tan Tue, 13 Feb 2024 22:38:58 +0800 —> this travel time is possible, but the duration of stay is unlikely

Observation 3: Strange record of time stamps

It seems that from the commits, often the time stamps are out of order. I am not sure what would cause this other than some tampering.

Observation 4: Bank holiday inconsistencies

We notice that Jia’s work schedule and holidays seems to align much better with an Eastern European than a Chinese person.

Disclaimer: I am not an expert in Chinese holidays, so this very well could be inaccurate. I am referencing this list of bank holidays:(https://www.bankofchina.co.id/en-id/service/information/late...)

Chinese bank holidays (just looking at 2023): - Working on 2023, 29 September: Mid Autumn Festival - Working on 2023, 05 April: Tomb Sweeping Day - Working on 2023, 26, 22, 23, 24, 26, 27 Jan: Lunar New Year

Eastern European holidays: - Never working on Dec 25: Christmas (for many EET countries) - Never working Dec 31 or Jan 1: New Years

Observation 5: Little weekend work —> salary job?

The most common working days for Jia were Tue (86), Wed (85), Thu (89), and Fri (79). If we adjust his time zone to EET, then that means he is usually working 9 am to 6 pm. This makes much more sense than someone working at midnight and 1 am on a Tuesday night.

These times also line up well with Hans Jansen and Lasse Collin.

I think it is more likely that Jia does this as part of his work… somewhere in Eastern Europe. Likely working with, or in fact being one and the same as, Hans Jansen and Lasse Collin.


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