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Your business is getting the money. Your business is not to fly around the world trying to engineer-mog the client. The OP has a bad ego.

"They don't even use version control..." Yeah? Get the money. The client are "carpetbaggers", yeah okay... get the money.

It's implied that they hired you because they need the help. But they also may have hired you because they need the help and you seem like a sucker they can stiff.


Seems like the logical conclusion, no matter what.

I don't think it's a scam at all. Will it be around in a week? Probably not. But it's not a scam.

1) it's already been live for about a month, so definetly not a week long project 2) I use the app myself every day to reduce screentime so I'm highly motivated to keep the app up to date. When the platforms change DOM elements, or try to distrupt Dull from working I am also disrupted, so I work quickly to fix all bugs 3) There is a 7 day free trial for anyone to test out if it's a "scam". It's not.

a funny reading - if anyone pays for something that won't be around in a week they deserve to be scammed by some scammer.

that said it seems somewhat close to a scam.

but having said those things I'll just note here, knowing you were not the original poster, that people do not in any way deserve to be scammed because they fall for easy to spot scams.


The opposite is true in my case - though 1 organization that had a small budget for things like AWS certs. I remember almost everyone who would get those certificates would never really learn anything from it either. They would just take the exams.

The right thing to be said here. Oracle is trash. Would you expect rude idiots to be nice smart people all of a sudden?

I'm sorry but you work at Oracle. Terrible people. Very rude people. You should expect it.

I don't, so I can still call how they do things: rude.

All (not some) of the most successful devs I've known in the sense of building something that found market fit and making money off it were terrible engineers. They were fairly productive at building features. That's it. And they were productive - until they weren't. Their work ultimately led to outages, lost data, and sensitive data being leaked (to what extent, I don't even know).

The ones who got acquired - never really had to stand up to any due diligence scrutiny on the technical side. Other sides of the businesses did for sure, but not that side.

Many of you here work for "real" tech companies with the budget and proper skin in the game to actually have real engineers and sane practices. But many of you do not, and I am sure many have seen what I have seen and can attest to this. If someone like the person I mentioned above asks you to join them to help fix their problems, make sure the compensation is tremendous. Slop clean-up is a real profession, but beware.


There used to be a saying along the lines of “while you’re designing your application to scale to 1m requests/min, someone out there is making $1m ARR with php and duct tape”

It feels like this takes on a whole new meaning now we have agents - which I think is the same point you were making


I'm cool with blogging about your mess-ups, sort of. Is "I'm incompetent" a good content strategy though? Yeah, you're going to get a lot of traffic to that post, but what are you signaling? Your product is a thousand bucks a year. I would not go near it.


I'm cool with blogging about your fuck-ups, but honestly, not really. Is "I'm incompetent" a good content strategy? Your product is a thousand bucks a year. I'm not going near it. But that's just me?


While I agree, how much training does anyone get as an interviewer? I spent 10+ years doing interviews at all sorts of orgs (including Fortune 500s, government, etc.) without a single hour of interviewer training.

Now that I think about it, none of those organizations ever trained me at anything at all. Huh.


> none of those organizations ever trained me at anything at all

They trained us repeatedly not to bribe foreign government officials, even though I had zero access to anybody like that. There was also some mandatory training against harassing coworkers. I.e. "protect the company from lawsuits" training, not "here are some ideas for how to do your job more effectively" training. They were megacorps, too.


> "protect the company from lawsuits

Yeah that's proven by the fact they get degree educated level engineers and force feed them videos designed for people working entry level positions. Its a crying shame because there's actually a lot of interesting discussions around nuance that are just sidelined by these videos creating basic bitch absurdities:

> During the lunch break, Jim has dipped his penis into Samantha's yoghurt

> is this:

> a) entirely acceptable, its just his culture

> b) a borderline issue

> c) something that someone should report to HR

Instead of:

Jane is developing feelings for someone that reports to her, they meet up outside of work and have a one-night stand. What should Jane do next?


> It's just his culture.

Wrong. Her yogurt, her culture.


> While I agree, how much training does anyone get as an interviewer?

TL;DR: not enough training.

As a hiring manager, whenever we start a hiring period I have a conversation with my interviewer team about what qualities we're looking for and review the questions they plan to ask in order to normalize the process. Stuff like "what does a good answer look like, and why? what does a bad answer look like? is this something easy for a candidate to engage with or will you spend half the interview just explaining the background? is this coding question unreasonably hard?" and so on.

I also look at the evaluations that interviewers give relative to other interviewers. Almost every hiring cycle I've done I've had to deal with some interviewer (all over the seniority spectrum) asking unreasonably hard questions.


Yeah, I had no training on being an interviewer before I started doing interviews. My manager gave me some tips, and I came up with two security bug-hunt exercises (was hiring AppSec engineers), but that was it.

Now, I wonder if I had rejected earlier candidates that I would have passed if I was a better interviewer.


The best advice I've had on interviewing is: Find an actual problem that your team is actually working through and ask the candidate how they would approach it.

Then to jazz it up: simplify the proble. To get to the root stuff that needs to be covered (e.g. ignore creating Jira tickets and focus on connecting to a database with cross-refion replication). You also want it to be simple enough that it can be solved in <30 minutes


Sounds common to have training in big tech but I never received any training either. Sometimes we’d discuss changes we wanted to make to the interview process, which suppose could be considered adjacent to training.


Quite a bit based on the number of interviews performed at software companies. Being on either side of the fence gives you experience.


Same here. I receive a training budget at some places but it goes unspent. Everything is self directed learning in my own time.


That's unusual. Maybe that's a US thing? In Europe anywhere I've had to interview people I've received at least a couple of hours of training and then usually sat in as the shadow on at least one interview.

Quality varies, but I think it's only the super small outfits where I've been expected to just wing it.


In my case? Two days I think (it was long ago). Two very eye-opening days.


Seriously? I worked at startups and research institutions. We trained people on interviews. I know Google used to invest quite a bit on interview training.


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